Is it worth the extra £70 ( $114) to "upgrade" from DT770s to DT880s?

Dec 17, 2013     THREAD STARTER

Taklop New Head-Fier

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First a quick background. I'm relatively new to the audio game, and currently I own the ATH AD700s. They've been with me for a good couple of years, but I'm looking for something more. I listen to music from my computer, so portability and such are of no concern.
 
I did some research and came across the DT770s. I also saw that many people said they needed an amp to perform at full capacity. As such, I ordered a pair of DT770 pros, 250 Ohm impedance, and a Schiit Vali amp. The DT770s have arrived, and they are fantastic. While not as comfy as the old ATH AD700s, they have far more of a thump, with crisp and defined highs. I listened to music for a good few hours (Around 6) and they weren't fatiguing in any way.
 
Here's the tough bit, I've heard that the 880s are better in nearly every way. If I wait, and decide to upgrade later, I'll have to pay the full price for the 880s, thus costing a large amount of money for what may be a relatively small audio upgrade. However, I could return my 770s to amazon and get the 880s, which would cost me around £70 ($114). Are the 880s good enough to warrant the effort of returning a product, and the monetary investment? I'm not concerned about sound leakage in either direction (My ATH AD700s are perfectly fine)
 
Also, to clarify, I can't fault the 770s in any way, and I'm loving them, I'm just concerned the 880s may be EVEN BETTER, and this may be my last chance to return the 770s and get the most "bang for my buck." Both of these headphones will be driven from my soon to arrive Schiit Vali.
 
I'd most likely get the pro 250 Ohm version of each headphone (As the 600s are not available in a similar price range)

Dec 17, 2013

Taklop New Head-Fier

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Also, I just wanted to add, I have no idea if the Schiit Vali is the best amp for either of these cans. I'd be more than open for any different amp suggestions within the same pricerange. (I'm sure Schiit does returns). As I said above, I listen to music from my PC, so I'm pretty sure I don't need a DAC.

Dec 17, 2013

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As an owner of both the dt770/250 and the dt880/250, I will say that the dt880s are much better than the dt770 if you don't need isolation. Being an open design just makes it that much better. 
 
I haven't heard the dt880 in a long time but based on my experiences with the Vali, it performs very well with bright sounding headphones. The vali is a little bit bright BUT it adds some wetness to the mids, which would complement the dt880 very well. The bass performance on the vali is also excellent. 
 
Also, you don't necessarily NEED a dac, but it is highly recommended. The vali scales very well with your dac and may very well be the only amp you need until you hit end-game, or if you go with headphones that may not work well with the vali. 

Dec 17, 2013

Taklop New Head-Fier

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Well that sounds fantastic. What about the 880 is better? I assume that being semi-open would mean it has a far larger soundstage. What are the other differences/improvements that make it better?

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taklop said: ↑

  Well that sounds fantastic. What about the 880 is better? I assume that being semi-open would mean it has a far larger soundstage. What are the other differences/improvements that make it better?

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Larger soundstage, airier presentation, more balanced sound, smoother treble, tighter and more defined bass are things that come to mind. 

Dec 20, 2013

Taklop New Head-Fier

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Well, I ordered the DT880 250 Ohm pros, and had a listen-off with the Schiit Vali. And yes, there is a large difference. I underestimated the difference sound staging would make, and they seem to be less dominated by bass with a fuller, more accurate sound. Needless to say, the DT770s were put back in their original packaging and will soon be sent back to Amazon. Thanks for the advice!
 
--edit-- Also, they seem to be a much higher build quality, they look nicer, and are far more comfortable straight out of the box. Things I didn't even consider.

Dec 20, 2013

MshenayContributor Headphoneus Supremus

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taklop said: ↑

  Well, I ordered the DT880 250 Ohm pros, and had a listen-off with the Schiit Vali. And yes, there is a large difference. I underestimated the difference sound staging would make, and they seem to be less dominated by bass with a fuller, more accurate sound. Needless to say, the DT770s were put back in their original packaging and will soon be sent back to Amazon. Thanks for the advice!
 
--edit-- Also, they seem to be a much higher build quality, they look nicer, and are far more comfortable straight out of the box. Things I didn't even consider.

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YAY
 
I''m enjoying my DT 880 and Vali atm, I'm happy to hear that you are also enjoying the combo :3. I think for the price. The Vali is one of the BEST amps I've heard for the DT 880. $137 is what I paid for mine new and it  was an excellent decision. The Vali is driving my DT 880 600 ohm very nicely as well, so it's got more than sufficent voltage swing imo for high impedance headphones! I'm sitting about about  9:30 with my UAC 202. 

Dec 20, 2013

PurpleAngelContributor Headphoneus Supremus

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taklop said: ↑

  Well, I ordered the DT880 250 Ohm pros, and had a listen-off with the Schiit Vali. And yes, there is a large difference. I underestimated the difference sound staging would make, and they seem to be less dominated by bass with a fuller, more accurate sound. Needless to say, the DT770s were put back in their original packaging and will soon be sent back to Amazon. Thanks for the advice!
 
--edit-- Also, they seem to be a much higher build quality, they look nicer, and are far more comfortable straight out of the box. Things I didn't even consider.

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A Asus Xonar DX or D1 sound card (used is fine)
or a Hifimediy Sabre U2 USB DAC (36 GBP+shipping)
Should offer some improvement to the audio quality, over the motherboard's built in DAC feature.

Dec 20, 2013

Taklop New Head-Fier

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I actually already have the sound blaster x-fi xtreme audio sound card, and that'll do for a while. At some point I may upgrade to the Modi, but for now I'm perfectly fine. Thanks for the suggestion though.

Dec 20, 2013

PurpleAngelContributor Headphoneus Supremus

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taklop said: ↑

  I actually already have the sound blaster x-fi xtreme audio sound card, and that'll do for a while. At some point I may upgrade to the Modi, but for now I'm perfectly fine. Thanks for the suggestion though.

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The Xtreme Audio is consider a bottom of the line Creative sound card, at least by a lot of other Creative Labs owners/supporters.
Even selling off the Xtreme audio and buying a used ($40) Titanium (non-HD) might make a decent upgrade.Share This Page

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